By Fatma Ben Abdullah Al Kray (5152004)
The tragedy is still going on in Iraq as in Palestine, and the cause of the tragedy is still present .. In front of justice may come from history may not come … Images extend ugly to the entire soil of Iraq … And to all the body of the nation drugged … Pictures of shame and defeat injustice The tragedy goes beyond Abu Ghraib prison to affect all of Iraq. Iraq is the longitude and latitude Iraq since the executioners put their planes, their forbidden bombs and their weapons. Lethal, from the training centers and bases of their military that “settled” in Europe and Asia, towards Iraq, which tried to build A new Arab man, mimics the human beings in the nations of scientists, researchers and regenerators … Started the series «Pictures of shame» .. Those filmed for us and for more than a decade of victims of depleted uranium in Iraq and the victims of the siege imposed on this country, which affected its brothers before the occupation … then everyone decomposes of his blood …
What is this despicable soldier who tells us in every bravery tells his testimony in the form of a “heroism” and declares that he has actually killed civilians in Iraq … and even killed hundreds of them … What is this reckless “soldier” who has no soldier but murder and breaking the laws and practice The art of occupation? Who will cut the tormentors in Iraq … In the whole of Iraq, which has become a big prison, its jailers are not held accountable or prosecuted … because his political leadership has provided him with the legal cover that keeps him away from the specter of prosecution.
Shazli reminded Benagasaki and Hiroshima and did not see in these events what could be related to the honor of the military profession, and talked about the Korean War when the US machine was killed and indiscriminately by air, thousands without forgetting my interlocutor who once again showed that he is a good observer and an extraordinary follower and reader General Saad El Shazly did not forget the Vietnam War and followed the events linking each other between the fierce and immoral war against Iraq in 1991, and what is now in Abu Ghraib prison, which is seen by Abu al-Askaria. To the whole of Iraq, because what is happening in Iraq is an occupation and what the people of the world are subjected to Aq war crime ..
He is a follower and a troublemaker, too. The event is being compared to the event, and in the field of what happened in Abu Ghraib and the means of punishment and how the Americans will now react to what happened, he recalled that the entry of Iraqi forces into Kuwait in 1990, which was a military invasion in which Iraqi soldiers attacked Kuwaiti houses. And when it came to the Iraqi leadership executed in a public square four soldiers was to bring us the right news Western citizen (US) filmed the facts and brought evidence as did «CBS» with the crime «« Abu Ghraib »… So says Shazli: apology The American is not enough ..
General Saad El Shazly, an expert in fighting affairs, will ask the expert in the rules of war and soldiers: What happened in Abu Ghraib prison is by all horrible standards … But now the talk about confining the crime to a “punch” of rogue until the occupation comes out Again with no impunity. How do you see the matter and how do you explain this tragedy that makes the strong and the weak the most vulnerable, and the law under the roof of justice and humanity?
A: There is no difference that the torture and attacks against prisoners in Iraq is terrible. The tragedy does not stop at torture and killings under torture and prejudice to the dignity of the detainee. I have to say what I heard from Bush and Rumsfeld that the apology is not enough, but it must be accompanied by actions and the signing of a deterrent. What happened and what we get now about the insults and torture in Abu Ghraib prison cannot be an individual act or an isolated act. When torture is repeated and torture practices spread throughout the prison, which includes more than ten thousand detainees, it is not isolated practices. The issue becomes systematic and planned.
We have seen the British officer, who was not enough to imprison and torture the detainee, but she made in his neck a cord surrounded by «dog» and took a picture dragging him in a movement that is practiced only with animals! We saw the vast internal space of the prison, which portrayed the female soldier assaulting the dignity of the Iraqi prisoner … We also saw three who practice the maximum torture with a detainee … These can not be secret or isolated acts … If he participated in these operations, which ended images Her will to our eyes and our hearings, one hundred soldiers, it means that they dominate the whole prison … These can not be considered individual practices, but is systematic and has a commander in charge of his soldiers who do those actions, and as long as the resurrection was based on those images and that shake that we saw on the screens in the street American and British legislative institutions in both countries N who occupy Iraq … This means that what was hidden was greater and therefore we make sure once again that what happened in «Abu Ghraib» and what is happening in the whole of Iraq at the hands of the occupation is not isolated work … Then that in the process that took place in «Abu Ghraib» the prisoner is criminally responsible. Then there are people in the intelligence service, which is a higher authority than the prison authority, and therefore their responsibility is certain … And we must extrapolate from this situation and according to this methodology, these officials agree to the operations that took place in prison … It is true that the Pentagon wanted to cover the It was because he was exposed. A.ba.as »to say they (politicians, officials of any Ministry of Defense), they knew about the practice and saw the pictures since last January … So we ask: Where was responsible for all that time? The US administration did not imagine that the process would reach its details to the press. Moreover, in this process that took place in Abu Ghraib prison, the prisoner is criminally responsible … Then there are people in the intelligence service, which is a higher authority than the prison authority, and therefore their responsibility is certain … Which we must extrapolate from this situation and according to this methodology, It is true that the Pentagon wanted to cover up the matter, because it was uncovered. He knew about the events and investigated or was investigating how to hide them until CBS came to say that they (the officials) Politicians (the Ministry of Defense) knew about the practices and saw the pictures since January last … So we ask: Where was Officials all this long? The US administration did not imagine that the process would reach its details to the press. Moreover, in this process, which took place in Abu Ghraib prison, the prisoner is criminally responsible. It is true that the Pentagon wanted to cover up the matter, because it was uncovered. Politicians (the Ministry of Defense) knew about the practices and saw the pictures since January Officials all this long? The US administration did not imagine that the process would reach its details to the press. It is true that the Pentagon wanted to cover up the matter, because it was uncovered. CBS came to say that they (political officials, the Ministry of Defense) knew about the practices and saw the pictures since January … So we ask: Where were the officials for so long? The US administration did not imagine that the process would reach its details to the press. It is true that the Pentagon wanted to cover up the matter, because it was uncovered. CBS came to say that they (political officials, the Ministry of Defense) knew about the practices and saw the pictures since January … So we ask: Where were the officials for so long? The US administration did not imagine that the process would reach its details to the press.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] So this apology and this demonstration of the shock that we saw on the faces of senior American officials were not in principle, but that the images reached the world public opinion? A: US military and political officials wanted to conceal the facts at any cost … until one of them (General Myers) came to admit that he had asked the press not to publish the photos we saw … The media withholding the truth from public opinion in America are terrible mistakes. ** You are a military field man and your formation and practice of the military field or academic career has always been the trench of defense. But history gets to acknowledge similar atrocities committed by the occupation in Algeria, in Tunisia and in all parts of the world that have been subjected to the force of arms for military occupation.
A: First, I want to emphasize that what we saw or what we could see from the brutality of torture and abuse of Iraqi prisoners by American and British soldiers is disgusting and terrible. Responsibility rests with the state when it learns through its hierarchy of military and political officials. As soon as the State concerned informs its soldiers of the offenses against the detainees and does not act or react, there is a criminal responsibility.
I will give you an example that happened in Kuwait at the hands of Iraqi soldiers, who are in fact very few, who stole jewelry when they raided luxurious houses that were abandoned. A year in Kuwait … Since the Americans had no interest in announcing this, the media was not interested in images that came from Saddam’s regime depicting retribution and trial. This means that the Iraqi leadership during the days of Saddam was decisive and now has nothing left for this witness, except waiting for what the American leadership will do under the command of Bush Jr.! The responsibility of the US administration has been exacerbated because the events date back to October and December. However, they did not investigate the matter but tried to hide the facts.
** The unpleasant smells of the crime began when one of the Iraqi detainees sent a letter calling on the Iraqi resistance to blow up the prison including, because the Iraqi women prisoners are full of the results of attacks and rape ..! A: This is an atrocity, which is unprecedented, no matter how we read history. This is a brutality that we have never seen. It prohibits the prosecution of its soldiers before the International Criminal Court. The law prohibits the submission of American soldiers to any kind of court that can decide or have jurisdiction to try war criminals.
If the American soldiers who committed the crimes in Iraq, whether in Abu Ghraib prison or in the whole of Iraq, which they converted as occupiers to prison, if they were sure that they would be punished if they committed the offense, they would not have come. atrocities that we saw that did not inform us yet, it is reassuring because there is a law created by the political leadership to protect him whatever he does and whatever the level of his crimes against the Iraqi man … US soldiers practiced «vices» they are reassured … because they will not stand before an international court! If these soldiers were to be subjected to a deterrent, they would not have done what they had done sadly and horribly … And the American president is responsible for those crimes because he knew about them. [Asharq Al-Awsat] Do you think, Sir, that the countries that have signed a bilateral agreement with the United States according to which they refrain from bringing American soldiers to trial for war criminals, are now regretful?
A: God, the countries that have signed bilateral treaties with America in this regard deserve what can happen to them. ** Despite this, the era is the era of power now and this means that even if there are no agreements with America protect the American soldier in accountability, who can try the United States of America even if proven crimes against humanity committed by its armed forces … The world today is a world One century, but is not there at least the possibility of exposing these practices while recording them in the memory of humanity to make accountability even after a while?
A process is a moral process, as a general principle, if an individual (military) commits a crime and kills a person or a group and exercises individual responsibility. If this leader does not act against him, then he (the commander) is under criminal responsibility, the criminal, and his leader, the world public opinion is now all against America … and the American public against the Bush administration … Those who fall into the hands of al-Qaeda, for example, what happened to the Iraqis. So when the Americans know that the action they commit can be retaliated through retaliation, it becomes different. I call on the 70 countries that have signed bilateral agreements with Washington regarding the exemption of US soldiers from prosecution within those countries to withdraw from the treaty. Because that is also encouraging Americans to do.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] Can I ask you what you think of the official Arab system, which has recorded its absence in this matter? A: Everyone is afraid of America now. On the other hand, we note that the American public is more opposed to America than any Arab country. Even the criticism that we have heard is shy and not strong. American and British public opinion has preceded most of the Arab regimes. [Asharq Al-Awsat] Do you find America to believe it anymore, which holds one billion Muslims accountable for the actions of individuals, while the political and military establishment in Washington is involved in a crime against humanity in Iraq? A: No one believes America, no matter what it says or does. Nor does anyone believe that the actions of Abu Ghraib prison are individual acts. The Americans demanded that Rumsfeld resign.
The point that America, with an absolute comfort to the Muslims, is now clear is its owner … What has fallen into the hands of America, after witnessing a witness from its people. The testimony came at the heart of America itself, and the testimony acknowledged that what the American soldiers did in Iraq was contrary to all the values of humanity and the conditions of war and even the entitlements and “controls” of the occupation. The questioner will ask them: “How do you hold Afghanistan and Iraq accountable for 9/11 and say you are terrorists?” You are now revealing to yourself that the atrocities that have taken place against the Iraqi detainees are not an isolated act, nor is it an individual.
** In fact, the starting point in this subject is the occupation, in all times can not wait less than those atrocities against humanity of every occupation, and this is a general principle that involves reality. The practices are the same and the absence of the moral guardian is the same across all kinds of occupation and at many stages in history. A: We hear and also rightly assume that the Israelis are committing acts that are crimes against humanity. But there has been no investigation into the search for this operation because we already know that there is no documentary evidence, as it is now with the Americans in Iraq. As long as the documents lack you in such cases as if you were plowing at sea. But the operation «Abu Ghraib» there is a video, pictures and testimonies about these atrocities and prove easy ..
** There are those who see, professor, that the atrocities and crimes of the occupation began from the Americans towards the people of Iraq and the whole country since the 1991 war, and for ten years, when the planes relentlessly attack the people of Iraq daily indiscriminately kill what it claims military objectives, then are you with me, that the issue Did not start with «Abu Ghraib» until the talk is permissible shock and surprise? A: There is no doubt that this affects the soldiers … In Iraq, people are defending their country … The planes know that they practice indiscriminate killing in civilian areas where you see hundreds of deaths … This means the government that sent them as a political authority. Why is this double standard, when an American is killed by the resistance, it becomes a crime, and when the American soldier is witnessing mass and indiscriminate killing, isolated incidents become this if exposed in the press … Otherwise there are no crimes or atrocities and the occupation turns into a democratic Jalab as they claim.
The law to protect American soldiers from foreign prosecution affects the occupation soldiers, and the killing and atrocity are common. These are encouraging data for him. I now ask the man of the long experience in the art of fighting.
– Indiscriminate killing was known only when the United States entered world or regional wars. America’s military history is not bright … it is black. When Washington entered World War II, the last shameful act of war was carried out by the American military machine when it threw Nagasaki and Hiroshima into nuclear. for the benefit of allies … These two two cities nothing to do with the war, and claimed the US nuclear victim of millions of people in Japan .. and killed by US machine millions of Vietnamese, as well as in the Korean war killed tens of hundreds , but millions and all were wars air on one side … civil became In Iraq targeted … It is the one who supplies the military with weapons, so killing them has become evil American power. A warplane that emits poisons does not target anyone and kills him, but kills hundreds and thousands indiscriminately.
I think that what has happened is a terrible scandal that will make European countries move to reconsider the Geneva Conventions and protect civilians during wartime and the time of occupation. What has happened in Iraq now at the hands of the Americans can be repeated in other Arab countries. Therefore , the world must move and the Arabs need to be aware of new facts .. ** If now stands on the tarmac at a military academy students studying in the military and military, and between Zaranic all these terrible backdrop for your photos, what will you say to your students?
A: We are, of course, in the Arab countries, according to the teachings of our true religion, and the ethics of the military profession is limited to those who bear arms. America has dividing lines between what is legitimate and what is forbidden … If the Americans consider Sharon the criminal advocate of self … I think not cross in our discourse and rhetoric … but unfortunately the Arabs do not appreciate the criticism of America even just cash .. America It promotes self-defense against terrorism, killing tens of thousands. Ask General Saad El Shazly about human rights organizations in this case. A: These are organizations that work according to their capabilities are associations, but I can say that they perform better than many Arab regimes.
[Asharq Al-Awsat] But these organizations were aware of the atrocities and crimes inside Abu Ghraib. A: These organizations revealed that they provided Bremer and the American administration with these reports and alerted them. But these organizations did not have pictures or video to depict what is inside. But I tell you something: we have to learn to blame ourselves before blaming others. They are organizations with legal limits and they cannot impose solutions … They are the peg of Arab regimes … In this area, I gave you an example of Saddam, because four of his soldiers did what they did from robbery in Kuwait, they were executed and executed … But the role Now waiting for Bush .. we’ll see what he will do ..
It should be noted that these crimes and atrocities cannot be brought by only six soldiers … These are crimes and have the elements of war crime … But the outcome is not to wait for anything from Amria, everything is permissible with her, but to pack up and leave Iraq, this is what we do not expect… America is now in an awkward position … for the trial of Saddam..is now unable to prove anything … there is no competent court for trial … this is a thorny issue I do not see how it will deal with Washington in the light of these developments and scandals .. The United States is now in trouble: the dialogue of Fatima bin Abdullah al-Kray